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with the fiscal cliff. the medicare tax on higher earnersers is going up and a steep tax on investment income. >> going up 3.8% on top of it. so the rich people who have -- who are high earners, their income will probably go up. and then they also, if they have investment income, it goes up 3.8% so they are paying more that way, and they are paying more on a medicare tax. so the democrats say the rich aren't paying more. and these taxes are going up regardless what have happens with the fiscal cliff. these tacks are written in obamacare. and if taxes do i- deed go up on the top two brackets as a result of the fiscal cliff, that will be on top of the obamacare taxes. >> is there any way for us, the nation, to police the earnings or profits are insurance company under obamacare? there are all of these extra, they get the extra deals. now the insurance companies get the extra deals because they have lobbyists and probably sent them over to the white house and capitol hill and they got the $25 billion that the extra americans don't get, the special deal. how do we know we aren't getting totally s
and house speaker john boehner talked by phone today about the so-called fiscal cliff-- those tax hikes for most americans and massive spending cuts that will kick in the first of the year unless two strike a budget deal. a republican source tells us that the president has cut his demand for more tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion, but the source said that the lower figure is no more acceptable to republicans. but the negotiations continue in private. the united states has a lot at stake in the syrian civil war. president obama has suggested that american firepower might be needed to prevent the dictatorship from using chemical weapons. we've learned that tomorrow the administration will endorse one of the rebel groups that is now fighting to overthrow bashar al- assad. who are these new american allies? clarissa ward found their leader in brussels. >> reporter: moaz al-khatib is the man chosen to lead a newly formed coalition of syria's opposition groups. what does it mean to be recognized by the u.s.? "the u.s. administration has big influence globally" he told us. "a ste
's plan does not fulfill what he calls a balanced approach to ending the fiscal cliff. tax hikes, increases, that's what he says this all amounts to for the president, increases in taxes, and he is not trying to reduce spending, and that's important to the republicans. he said for five weeks -- this is according to john boehner -- he's been reaching out to the president but the president has not given a serious proposal. then eric canter echoing those sentiments as well. and if we do go over the fiscal cliff, many in the polls will blame republicans. so after the phone call last night, this is all about messaging, trying to stem the tide of people who believe the republicans are responsible for putting us over the fiscal cliff if that, indeed, does happen. this is about messaging, this is about posturing as well, getting the message across. our dana bash is standing by and she will update us on that as well, what the president said and what the republicans said behind the scenes. >>> we're also following details of that deadly mall shooting in portland, oregon. panicked shoppers
, and fighting for people. >> let's focus on taxes for a moment. in the fiscal cliff debate, tax is a big part of that. where do you stand on that if you are anti tax? >> anti tax, but not anti common sense. it's obvious to me what the president is trying to do is the right thing to do. sometimes you have to have revenue in order to fill the hole. that's what president obama is trying to do and he's right on the mark. i support what he's doing. we have to watch spending too. common sense is really what i think americans want and what they believe in. what i believe in. and i think when you apply common sense to any issues, we can have common ground and move forward as a nation, do what's right and have a better future for all of us. >> governor crist, margaret hoover here. what you are saying sounds great, but republicans would say it sounds like political tunism at the cost of principal. you are becoming a democrat because there is no political future for you in florida as anything else. what do you say back to them? >> a lot of cynics in politics. and we recognize that. that's unfortunate. i
on a fiscal cliff deal. meanwhile, the president said he's confident republicans will cave on the tax increases. we'll discuss the fiscal cliff with our "morning joe" panel. >>> and now, mercifully, i need your help. are you with me on this one? the phrase fiscal cliff, i'm over it, time's up, date reached on the expiration, nails on the chalkboard annoying. can't we be a little more creative? this is where you come in. e-mail your alternative to the phrase "fiscal cliff," and i'll use the best one tomorrow on our show. we won't use fiscal cliff, i promise. so far, my best, budgetary bluff? yeah, the bar's been set very low. >>> up next, we'll huddle around the water cooler, where jon stewart stepped out of his comfort zone with an eminem-inspired rap for the michigan protesters. >>> well, enough with the real news. let's gather around the water cooler. and first, a little moment of silence. louis louis, who wouldn't miss a second of on-camera opportunity has been talking to the porcelain god all night. not sure why. we wish you the best, louis. see you tomorrow morning. >>> well, a d
as a mile away. no injuries have been reported. >> the fiscal cliff creeping closer -- with no visible progress in negotiations between lawmakers. the main sticking point -- democrats wants to cut tax breaks for the wealthy. spending cuts. now, with less than three weeks until a deadline -- the words took a slightly sharper tone on capitol hill. >> a lot of people know that the president and died sat and met on the sunday. it was nice and cordial. -- the president and i-met on sunday but what spending cuts are they going to make to willing to make for the approach? where are the spending cuts? >> what i would do to respond to the speaker is to set the record straight. the fact is that the president has and the democrats have agreed to over 1.5, 1.6 trillion dollars in cuts. the budget control act and other acts of congress. these are what you, mr. speaker have a voted for. >> unless an agreement is reached, the fiscal cliff which is the combination of tax rate increases and automatic trigger budget cuts. are set to kick in at the beginning of next year. >>jacqueline: with the rainfall
, going off the so-called fiscal cliff means a tax hike for just about everybody who does have a job. treasury secretary timothy geithner said the president is absolutely welling to go off the cliff unless republicans agree to raise tax rates. >> there is no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. only 2%. >> reporter: on that no progress. >> where are the specifics? where are the discussions? nothing is going on. >> reporter: there have been no real talks between the white house and republicans for a week, but they say one sign of progress, the president and the speaker of the house spoke via telephone. neither side would give any details about what was said. the stock market closed higher with traders optimistic a deal will be reached. jonathan karl, abc news, washington. >> amazing a phone call can calm the markets. impressive here. what i thought was interesting. we talked how the house is scheduled to go on vacation the 14th of the month. so actually there is a tighter deadline than the 31st. apparently, house majority
to go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year, if republicans don't agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> and maybe abraham lincoln can help the fiscal cliff negotiations. harry reid believes so. the senate will get inspiration when reid hosts a clescreening the spielberg movie. >> whatever helps to get things moving, right? >>> hundreds of same-sex couples in washington state lined up overnight to get a marriage license now that they can legally wed. the county clerk's office in seattle opened at midnight to accommodate couples eager to make history. there's another historic first in washington overnight. it is now legal to buy and possess pot. the law, though, bans public use of marijuana, like drinking in public. and it's against the wall to sell pot. the state is trying to work out a system to license growers. >>> and with that, we'll take a look -- >> you can't buy it or sell it. >> time, now, for the weather across the country. showers from portland to seattle. up to eight inches of snow in the northern cascades and rockies. mild in the nation's midsection. pop-u
of taxes are kicking in automatically. there is so much focus on fiscal cliff and bush tax cuts that would expire. you have investment tax. this tax. three different ones. medicare surtax, that will be taken, everybody's taxes are going up no matter what happens, right? >> they're going up through obamacare. throw the fiscal cliff which could potentially raise taxes dramatically. that is big reason we see a lot of consumers aren't spending as much. a lot of companies are not hiring. you're not seeing unemployment fall. we don't know. this $63 again doesn't sound like a lot of money. i'm not going to be surprised next couple years if we see a lot more of these fees really sneaking up on us. i love the administration, say most likely will go away unless congress extends it. how much do we see it could end up being twice as much. martha: you can't see congress going, oh, my gosh, 2017, time to bring back the $63, it's done, not going to happen? thinking around the holiday thinking but know that will not happen. martha: anyone can find an example where congress said, you know what, we shouldn'
over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over the 800 billion in new tax revenue. this was part of john boehner and plan. those tea party-backed co
ahead of the fiscal cliff that presumably will include a rise in the rate on capital gains and how dividends had the income that a stock may pay will be taxed in 2013. some of them are selling today when they know and that sort of income will be. however the stock market has been on a glide path over the past couple of weeks. this signals two things. that investors had this before the deal end. it doesn't matter because as it slips into january. it will be a resolution after congress comes back on the third of january or if not that before the president is inaugurated again on the 20th of january. you saw how the market is higher by about 40 points on the dow. >> thank you so much and good to see you. still ahead, thousands of voters waited in hours long line on election day like these folks in florida. eric holder is calling for voting changes. what he is proposing. one of the things we thought you should know. we will talk about how bob menendez is preparing for the next battle in congress, immigration. conservative leaders are giving cover to house republicans, fearful of the im
worried about the fiscal cliff. a walmart survey says customers know about the impending tax increases and spending cuts. and some are cutting back on their spending for the holidays. most retailers depend on this month's sales for their success. and poor results could be disastrous for them. >>> and bank of america customers aren't happy, either. the nation's second-largest bank had its lowest satisfaction score in 11 years. the worst for any major bank, in fact. it's the only one with a grade lower than before the recession. at the other end of the spectrum, though, is jpmorgan chase, whose satisfaction score was up 6%. >>> and 2012 was on track for a record gun sales ahead of last year. the fbi has run 350,000 more of its instant background checks than in all of last year. abc news expects almost 2 million more gun checks just this month. >>> and call it easy bake backlash. a new jersey girl's campaign to make the toy more gender-neutral appears successful. 13-year-old mckenna pope says the easy bake oven should be made in colors other than pink and purple, to appeal to boys like he
. >>> here is where we are on the fiscal cliff talks. we are less than three weeks now from the 1-2 punch of tax increases and government spending cuts and the two sides appear to be moving farther apart. here's house speaker john boehner describing his latest negotiations with the president, just over the phone last night. >> the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. she s unearthed some surprising new details here about the speaker's latest offer to the president. dana, what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, we were told first earlier today by democratic source that part of the reason why that phone call between the president and the speaker didn't go so well to put it mildly is because part of the republican counteroffer they sent to the white house yesterday included a renewed call for, quote, permanent tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. now, we know that that is a nonstarter in general for the president. he said it ump team times, but the democrats at the white house felt that to
st fiscal cliff, but he stressed the clock is ticking. prediction, are you going to be able to raise taxes? yes or no. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other. i think the key is to make sure taxes go up on high end individuals, like you and me, barbara. we can afford it. and make sure the middle class families don't see their taxes go up. >> my full interview with president obama and the first lady, who were charming and funny together, will air friday, on both "20/20" and later on "nightline." it's been a busy week for me, because tomorrow night, i will have my 19th edition of the most fascinating people. we have a terrific list. we keep number one a secret, but here are a few who did make the grade in 2012. ♪ baby you light up my world like nobody else ♪ >> my first choice wasn't a tough one it was fascinating that two years ago, they didn't even know each other. now this incredible boy band going just one direction, up. they are an overnight sensation, taking the world by storm and making young girls everywhere swoon. if you had to describe this past year in one word
violence, great to have you on. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >>> we go back to the fiscal cliff and the president's call for higher tax rates for the wealthy. republicans fighting those hikes, say that one of the victims would be america's small businesses. >> people need to call him and ask him the question are you also talking about the small business folks. >> if you look at what he's doing, as jon kyl mentioned, raising taxes on small businesses -- >> so we hear that all the time, small business, small business. but would the president's plan really take a dent out of what we think of as mom and pop shops? joining me now is glenn kesler of the "washington post" fact check. great to have you here. speaker boehner made a similar claim about small businesses recently and you guys gave him criticism on this. how many mom and pop shops could see higher taxes under the president's plan? >> it's not really a lot. in terms of -- part of the problem is the way people manipulate the data but it's only about depending how you look at it, 3% to 7% of small businesses, people would think
is a tough one. >>> new signs of progress in efforts to avoid the fiscal cliff after a closed door meeting at the white house. >> more republicans are coming forward to say that the richest americans should pay more in taxes. here is abc's david kerley. >> reporter: for the first time in more than three weeks, a face-to-face meeting at the white house, but no cameras as the president sat down with speaker john boehner. no details are being offered which some will see as good news. the co-creator of a debt reducing plan sees progress. >> any time you have two guys in there tangoing, you have a chance to get it done. >> reporter: before the talks some republicans were admitting the president will get a lot of what he wants. >> let's face it he does have the upper hand on taxes. you have to pass something to keep that from happening. >> reporter: why compromising words? the white house moderated some demands. the president says tax rates for the wealthy have to rise now word that the actual rate could be negotiable. maybe not all the way back to 39.6%. >> will i accept a tax increase as a par
by the same folks with the same agenda. >>> the g.o.p. house speaker sent the white house a fiscal cliff proposal calling for a permanent extension of the bush-era tax credit for incomes in the top 2%. that was the same proposal. >> that is the identical proposal. in 2011 that was the same proposal. john boehner he listen to this, this is b 12 john boehner after the election, what he was calling the president to do which he is not doing. >> mr. president this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans but as americans. we want to you lead, not as a liberal or conservative, but as president of the united states of america. we want to you succeed. let's challenge ourselves to find the common ground that has alluded us. let's rise above the dysfunction and do the right thing together for our country. >> cenk: now look, i'll tell i couldn't this pisses me off. lindsey graham says the same thing. this is not time to be liberal. conservatives say time to be conservatives. we've got a mandate. but not time to be liberal time to be bipartisan. you play small ball. you
the president to come up with a plan for spending cuts and tax revenue to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff we're talking so much b. otherwise we know there will be automatic tax hikes. there are also the spending cuts that kick in starting in january. the pentagon will bear the brunt of the automatic spending cuts. some republicans say mandatory cuts are better than no cuts at all and we should put defense spending on the chopping block to accomplish the long-term goal of reducing the deficit. joining me now oklahoma congressman james langford, his second term in congress. what do you think about that, some suggesting this is in a political article that the republicans are foresee questions tracing if that is the only way to cut the debt and deficit. >> the challenge of it is this is really part sue of the debt ceiling debate we had last summer. we wanted a strategic plan to reduce the spending. the house passed that in may. we had an outlined plan to reduce spending. we had no answer from them. the see questions station wa sequestration was the last report. i haven't been in congress a longt
a call after both traded fiscal cliff proposals. neither sealed a deal, so we're now 20 days away from almost $500 billion this automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. i sound like a broken record. along with the potential for a new recession. shannon travis is following the deal make. do we know what was in the proposals? >> we're getting details in drips and drabs. the white house has offered according to a source telling cnn to basically revise their revenue target. p president obama originally proposed $1.6 trillion in new revenue. he wants to raise the tax rates on the wealthiest americans. now we're being told that he's revised that number down to $1.4 trillion. that's obviously a difference of $200 billion. a democratic aide also telling cnn, i'll read the quote, that offer was coupled with a serious spending cut number with real entitlement reform. so that's from the white house side. on the counterproposal from the republicans, we don't have a lot of details on that, but from boehner's office, republicans are basically awaiting spending cut specifics from the white house. meanw
of the talks we've heard about the fiscal cliff, we've heard about balance and new tax revenue. but we don't hear balanced a budget. i think -- balanced budget. i think this speaks to how bad the situation is in the federal government when both parties don'tage knowledge that. as for -- don't acknowledge that. as for what's going on, just downstairs from me, speaker boehner started throwing cold water on any report that the talks were moving ahead. yes, there have been an exchange of offers. he said the last couple of days, but he said his phone call last night was a frank discussion about just how far apart they are. with 19 days left until the deadline or nine days until the end of the world, if you are look at the mine cardinal, nobody knows which way -- calendar, nobody knows which way we are headed. >> isn't this part of the we're so far apart publicly. but suddenly, they will announce miraculously they've reached a deal? >> reporter: i think for those of us here trying to cover us, it's the hardest thing to try to figure out since you are not et going the inside part of this. how muc
that fiscal cliff. he spoke with boehner by phone again yesterday about preventing an income tax increase on middle class families while finding ways to reduce the deficit. economists say if the deadline passes without a deal the tax cuts could be repealed. new poll shows the president holding a substantial advantage over boehner handling the budget negotiations. 49% approve of mr. obama's handling of the talks, 25% support boehner. >>> 49ers fans who attend games at the new facility can expect a state-of-the-art stadium the team has announced a deal with sonny to pack the site with game-changing technology. fans will watch replays on l.e.d. monitors, 2500 throughout the facility offering resolution four times higher than standard hd, no need for a monitor in the back of every seat. you can use your cell phone to order food and have it delivered to your seat. >>> developer of two san francisco residental projects secured millions in funding to move forward. bloomberg is reporting one of the largest u.s. home builders has lined up 1.7 billion dollar loan from china development bank. plans
spending would slow. this is the so-called fiscal cliff. now, it is clear what higher taxes would do. but what about budget cuts? who would that affect? a lot of folks including several million unemployed workers. watch this story with me from cnn's kyung lah. >> reporter: she doesn't call it a fiscal cliff. what she could be facing at year's end is a financial free fall. >> i don't know. i just wish i wasn't in this situation, but it is what it is. and i can just do what i can. >> reporter: she lost her job as a new home sales manager last january. on an old laptop, with a broken cord, she applies for job after job, keeping track in a packed notebook. >> seven, eight, nine. >> reporter: averaging 15 applications a day. at age 54, this is the first time she's been on unemployment. she emptied out her 401(k), her savings and now the last resort, the emergency federal jobless program has kept her in her town home, giving her $450 a week. but on december 29th, unless congress and the white house act, the money stops. >> we're not trying to live off the system. we're trying to survive. i
warnings and it's likely to bring new sanctions against the north. >>> to the fiscal cliff now, leaders in washington have less than three weeks to reach a budget deal or else face automatic spending cuts and tax increases that are likely to send the country back into a recession. the agreement has been slow. president obama and congressional republicans remain split on raising taxes on upper middle-class americans. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest now. susan, good morning to you. >> hi. good morning, terrell. both sides are talking publicly about what they want. the gop pushing back against that. but privately negotiations do continue. in an exclusive interview airing on abc's "20/20" this friday night, president obama says he's optimistic a deal will be reached, and he's confident the gop won't hold the middle-class taxes hostage to protect higher income americans. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, and think the key is to make sure the taxes go up on higher individuals like you and me, barbara. we can afford it. >> reporter: earlier on tuesday the presid
up to the fiscal cliff. >> brian: at least they are talking to each other. they are talking about raising rates for medicare to scen . rates to 37 . difdepped and inheritance and capitol gains on tap to go up. that could be devastating. >> steve: especially the difid end tax up a gigantical. >> brian: and capitol gains up five points. >> gretchen: stay tuned for that. he risked his life to help americans nail bin laden and now fox news has learned he was torteured in a pakistani jail. family members of the doctor said they can't even visit him. he was captured by pakistani officials and sentenced to 33 years in prison. got most wanten in the world. >> brian: why is there not more outrage on that. >> steve: and now extreme weather. he survived a tornado only to have this happen. watch. >> oh, my god, oh, my god. ci'm okay. che was chatting with a tv reporter when the roof came crashing down and luckily it was all caught on camera. >> gretchen: in country illegally. the university of california at berklyy offered 200 scholarship. a private company do mated money. >> brian: an easy b
of the nation's mayors and community leaders all about that "fiscal cliff." the president and house speaker john boehner talked on the phone last night. the white house lowered the amount of revenue it wants to generate from taxes. republicans say they are still waiting to hear from the president about spending cuts. >>> today the federal reserve is expected to announce a revamped bond buying plan to help boost the economy. the fed's goal is to keep interest rates low and encourage individuals and companies to borrow and spend. experts say that could at least soften the blow from tax increases and spending cuts that will all kick in next month if they don't reach a budget deal. >>> a san francisco-based bank loses its top spot as far as keeping its customers happy. wells fargo has slipped to second place behind jpmorgan chase when it comes to customer satisfaction among big banks. it's the first time in a decade that wells fargo has not ranked number one in the american customer satisfaction index. bank of america's rating is also down to a ten-year low. >>> facebook is number one on a new list
week, a new attempt to keep the country from plunging over the fiscal cliff. >> with time running out there are signs of possible progress in the attempt to head off a massive tax increase. it is monday, december 10th. >>> from abc news, this is "world news now." >> good monday morning. i'm sunny hostin in for paula faris. >> i'm john muller, rob nelson has the morning off. we're going to find out what the president and house speaker boehner are saying after a face to face meeting over that fiscal cliff. also this half-hour -- hopes and prayers for nelson mandela, the human rights hero in a south africa hospital this morning. >> also coming up, new hope in the fight against alzheimer's disease, experimental surgery to implant a kind of pacemaker for the brain is showing early success. >> an interesting one. >> yes. >>> later, daytime smack down, wendy williams lets loose with some harsh word about beyonce. what the talk show host is saying about the singer coming up in "the skinny." >> that's never going to go well. talking badly about beyonce. a bad move. >> going after beyonce is a
to oust syrian president assad. >>> meanwhile, as the "fiscal cliff" deadline approaches, indications that the president and house speaker john boehner are reportedly talking again, at least by telephone. among the proposals, the white house may agree to less tax revenue but the speaker still wants to see what cuts the president will make. but publicly, neither side is giving anything away. >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of balanced approach that he promised americans. >> what is required is, you know, agreement by republicans to some specific revenues that includes raising rates. >> there is no indication that the president will compromise on taxes on the wealthy going up. >>> a soon-to-open bay area restaurant is wondering where are all the workers? black bear diner is set to open a restaurant in emeryville next month. the owners have been holding job fairs to fill the more than 100 positions. but so far, they say, the turnout has been unexpectedly low. >> totally different response than what we exp
to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, the disastrous i ask unanimous consent sequences of our not acting, tax increases for every american taxpayer, massive cuts to defense at a time when the threats around the world are as varied and as great as we've seen in a long time. other essential programs of the federal government being affected by that. that's the last thing we need in this tepid economy with a lot of people out of work and hoping for some consensus to come together to provide a -- a long-term solution to our fiscal problem that continues to have a negative effect on our economy and more importantly, keeps people out of work. and so as that clock ticks, some are saying, well, partisanship is just too great in washington. the country's too divided. we're not going to be able to reach a consensus here in terms of how to address this problem. i disagree with that. over the last two years, and more, we have had a number of proposals brought forward on a bipartisan basis. it started with simpson-bowles, the former chief of staff to president clinton and al for a lon time, recognized
. >>> most americans say our leaders will keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff 20 days from now. that's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry is live at the white house. that's a motivator i suppose, lose your christmas. >> normally when there is a holiday like that, you're right. this forces them to come to the table. right now they are still pretty far apart. there was a phone call you last night between the president and the speaker. officials on both sides telling me tonight the call was pretty tense because the bottom line is they are still not finding common ground. you listen to the speaker today, jay carney from the white house podium, they're still saying that they're farther apart on both spending cuts and tax increases. take a listen. >
created this year, due to uncertainty about the fiscal cliff. >> it's very important we get it done now. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are talking again. but still, no breakthrough. the parties are locked in a stalemate. president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling, the government's ability to borrow money, be part of the deal. >> he's assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars out any limit at all. >> reporter: republicans who say they're open to raising tax revenue say they will only do so in exchange for deep spending cuts. if washington can't strike a deal, one casualty will be compensation for the long-term unemployed. that means people like linda vega, are worried. >> christmas and things of that nature are probably off the table. >> reporter: aides to president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday afternoon. but that meeting ended with no discernible signs of progress. rob and paula? >> thanks, tahman. >>> once the numbers are all tallied, they're going to show that the 2012 presidential e
over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect taxes for high-income individuals. >> reporter: the president and house speaker john boehner are at least talking. the president made an offer monday, asking for $1.4 trillion in new taxes over ten years. including raising tax rates on the wealthy. the speaker counter on tuesday. offering $800 billion in new tax revenue, all from closing loopholes and limiting deductions. house republicans say they need more specificity from the president on spending cuts. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: and the president argues that he outlined spending cuts in his last budget proposal, more than $550 billion worth. they're still on the table. negotiations will continue later today. josh? >> as that cliff looms. jake tapper, thank you for that. >>> meanwhile, calling it a big step, president obama has announced the u.s. will recognize syria's main oppositi
went off the fiscal cliff a long time ago when we doubled the size of the government in the last 11 years and when we gave increased benefits in medicare without creating tax revenue source to pay for it. the question is not medicare, social security, why would you not just address the issues facing our country and the very things that are going to cripple us if we don't address them? ann and saving medicare, guaranteeing that benefit to people in the future out to be important. we have 3 million people this year that are going to go in to medicare and three million the next and the next. >> what leverage do you think republicans have to force and get a deal? >> i don't know. i think, again, that's washington speak for politics, rather than policy. again, i think we ought to raise it another notch up. shouldn't we be having the president of the united states with the leaders of both houses of congress come together and say what are the real problems in the short term and long term facing our country. should we not be about addressing those and about decreasing the massive growth of
that again. >> despite the fact he says i'm willing to let us go over the fiscal cliff. just quickly, this is dovetailing what you said before. if the republicans have to take it on the chin with their base for talking about taxing the rich, could they be now discussing in broad terms how to at least say the democrats, you're going to take the hit for medicare, then? >> the deeper structural issue is this. this is not the first fiscal cliff. we have a fiscal cliff every year with renewing the amt, with fixing the medicare payment rate, the so-called doc fix. we make policy in a crazy way in this country. what i think republicans are trying to do is say let's look at structural solutions that can lower the cost of these programs over the long term rather than doing a patch at the last minute every darn year. that's the way we make policy and it is absolutely crazy. >> amen. >> don't go out tonight. we could have further details breaking as we speak. thanks to both of you. >>> coming up next, on "outfront" it's been exactly three months, three months, since terrorists attacked our u.s.
're not achieving anything by that. the republicans realize they lose politically if we go over the fiscal cliff, but this isn't just a political thing. the country loses economically if we go over it and then everybody is going to suffer -- >> let's go back to normal world. assume everybody is rational for five seconds. >> i can't do that. >> dana, you first. you're here in washington. and then ron. what's the game play out the next few days. i think the republicans have reached the end of the line. they're hoping obama will show his cards and come out with cuts for entitlements and then they will show something on tax cuts. >> they're begging him to show something. he has no incentive to do anything at least publicly. >> will they show their cards on tax cuts first? >> they have to. >> who is going to show their hand first? ron? >> the republicans. they're going to have to. obama can stand pat, and he's doing it right now. he can be cool hand luke. >> i think that's the way he is playing, very cool. thank you. he's going to force john boehner to come out and say what he wants done to protect t
and congress as we face the fiscal cliff. he said at one point that the president is calling for raising taxes $1.6 billion. that's true. but i would call to his attention the fact that the simpson-bowles commission suggested that 40% of the $4 trillion in deficit reduction come from revenue in taxes. what the president is suggesting is entirely consistent with that bipartisan group's call for more revenue in taxes as part of our deficit reduction. the president's made it clear, though, he wants to protect and insulate middle-income families from any income tax increases, and i agree with him. we should not raise the income taxes on those making less than $250,000 a year. i voted that way in july. we sent the bill to the house. it sits there. it languishes in the house because the speaker won't call it. he has his chance this week or the next to call that bill on the floor of the house of representatives to avoid any tax increase on middle-income families. that's an important thing for us to get done before we leave at the end of this particular session of congress. let me say that $1.6 trilli
about the fiscal cliff and laying the groundwork for the 2013-2014 election. that is at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> in president obama's weekly address, he talks about tax policy, the tax cuts put in place by the previous administration that will expire at the end of the year. then the republican address on the economy, jobs, and education policy. >> hello, everybody. over the last few weeks, there's been a lot of talk about deadlines we're facing on jobs and taxes and investments. but with so much noise and so many opinions flying around, it can be easy to lose sight of what this debate is really about. it's not about which political party comes out on top, or who wins or loses in washington. it's about making smart decisions that will have a real impact on your lives and the lives of americans all across the country. right now, middle-class tax cuts are set to expire at the end of the year. time is running out. and there are two things that can happen. first, if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st.
sat down with ted turner. we talk about everything from nuclear iran to the fiscal cliff. you're a successful person. you have many different ventures. do you think you should pay more as a wealthy american? do you think you should pay more taxes? >> yes. >> how much? >> you know, whatever's reasonable. >> that interview airing this time tomorrow right here on cnn newsroom. people have doubts about taking aspirin for pain. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replacement. if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask one of our insurance experts about it today. hello?! we believe our customers do their best out there in the world, and
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